Comments on: Tony’s Wager http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/ The weblog of Tony Morris Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:44:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Tony Morris http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-7073 Tony Morris Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:26:35 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-7073 Interestingly, I've never heard Pascal's Wager described as anything but a degenerate philosophical proposition with inherent logical fallacies (such as the obvious one, begging the question). Actually I have, but I block those events out of my mind since I assign them to absurdity (my brain is only so big). I'm don't think I'm about to shift position. I didn't bastardise Pascal's Wager any more than it already is. Interestingly, I’ve never heard Pascal’s Wager described as anything but a degenerate philosophical proposition with inherent logical fallacies (such as the obvious one, begging the question). Actually I have, but I block those events out of my mind since I assign them to absurdity (my brain is only so big).

I’m don’t think I’m about to shift position. I didn’t bastardise Pascal’s Wager any more than it already is.

]]> By: john http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-7039 john Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:38:38 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-7039 Tools of proof which are available for physical concepts are by themselves not useful in proving spiritual concepts, such as life after death or the existence of God. We simply cannot send a probe out to the afterlife for it to bring back any samples. The inability of these tools to prove that God exists is not proof that he doesn't exist. Other human faculties can be used to suggest that there IS a God. Learning how to use these faculties begins once we are open to the possibility of his existence. Pascal's Wager, which Tony bastardizes above, is certainly not a proof, but it is an invitation. Regards, John Tools of proof which are available for physical concepts are by themselves not useful in proving spiritual concepts, such as life after death or the existence of God. We simply cannot send a probe out to the afterlife for it to bring back any samples. The inability of these tools to prove that God exists is not proof that he doesn’t exist.

Other human faculties can be used to suggest that there IS a God. Learning how to use these faculties begins once we are open to the possibility of his existence. Pascal’s Wager, which Tony bastardizes above, is certainly not a proof, but it is an invitation.

Regards,
John

]]> By: tmorris http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2732 tmorris Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:36:05 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2732 Yes, it has been retracted pending my further investigation. Yes, it has been retracted pending my further investigation.

]]> By: Stefan Wagner http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2726 Stefan Wagner Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:59:47 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2726 Ooops - I wanted to enjoy the layout improvement while looking at the code (next entry). Apropos believe - I believe there has been an article about osiris (or which name did the egyptian god have?) which is gone - wasn't that article over here somewhere - maybee two months ago - maybe 3 or 4? Ooops - I wanted to enjoy the layout improvement while looking at the code (next entry).

Apropos believe - I believe there has been an article about osiris (or which name did the egyptian god have?) which is gone - wasn’t that article over here somewhere - maybee two months ago - maybe 3 or 4?

]]> By: Stefan Wagner http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2476 Stefan Wagner Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:49:03 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2476 I enjoy the layout improvement. Thanks. I enjoy the layout improvement. Thanks.

]]> By: Landei http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2449 Landei Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:18:15 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2449 I'm always amazed how Xians can be so sure to serve the right deity. My standard answer to conversion attempts is: I'll believe right here and now in god as soon as you can prove that the FSM is *not* the ruler of the universe. I’m always amazed how Xians can be so sure to serve the right deity. My standard answer to conversion attempts is: I’ll believe right here and now in god as soon as you can prove that the FSM is *not* the ruler of the universe.

]]> By: trav http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2448 trav Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:14:18 +0000 http://blog.tmorris.net/tonys-wager/#comment-2448 It's interesting, that comes close to something I've always said, which is that they'll never prove that there's no consciousness after death/leaving the material world (as there's nothing there to prove) but it is theoretically possible for it to be proved false. I agree on temperature though, warm is where it's at. At least you're in a more temperate part of the country than melbourne It’s interesting, that comes close to something I’ve always said, which is that they’ll never prove that there’s no consciousness after death/leaving the material world (as there’s nothing there to prove) but it is theoretically possible for it to be proved false.

I agree on temperature though, warm is where it’s at. At least you’re in a more temperate part of the country than melbourne

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